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Old Oct 08, 2007, 02:42 AM // 02:42   #1
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so yeah i decided to try and make the best pvp necro war build i posted originally even better with new eye of north skills. its very similar but easier to play now.

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AGORODONS GAZE or factions vamp bite (just cheaper)
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RIPOSTE> awesome skill
DEADLY RIPOSTE. > super awesome skill
heal signet

so basically rune up to like 630 hp and have energy at 55. have off-hand like shadestone and sword +5 energy +30 hp sword (bring wand if you want to attack once in a while in secondary). dont invest any attributes in swordmaship put 14 in blood 12 in tactics and put 3 remaining in soul reaping. so its farely simply to play use soul leech on casters with blood skills and use ripostes and blood stuff when attacked by meelee. use soul eeach on meelee if they cast stuff obviously. so all your atacks ignore armor and heal you (so awesome). you are invulnerable to meelee 1 on 1 if you play this right. just use blood stuff and ripostes. if you need to heal with heal signet cover it with ripostes (dont stack them raise them 1 by one) and you will block attacks during this armor penalty period. when facing two meelee at same time you have to learn to time ripostes to get only 1 of the two attackers which you finish off with blood skills and then kill other guy (takes a while to master). also be aware that dervishes and most meelee have skills that swing at everybody and by atacking them close up you can get them to trigger ripostes even if there not targetting you directly. so the awesome build i posted is now increadibly more awesome with argorodons gaze which if suffering from a conditions gives you 15 energy. i thought it would be like free if i used it with condition but actually on top of it beeing free it gives you 15 energy making conditions desirable even. also you can take just as much as vamp bite from affar which has its benefits. on down side you no longer have a skill to use under back fire but pros out weigh this. any ways try it before you judge it. its a build where almost invariably 1 on 1 you will win (meelee especially).


most people here hate it for no reason but be aware I defeated two of them here in duel (they had the skills and designed a build to beat it and lost, twice) and ive run into some in ra and killed them too. ive never lost in a duel with this and got most of my glad ranks with it. its now that much better try it and dont let these defeated people influence you before you try it.

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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26   #2
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populationcontrol is back, with another soon-to-be-epic thread!

And you forgot to mention that you cheated in those two duels by changing skills, as said in the thread.

EDIT: The First Epic Thread by populationcontrol

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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29   #3
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actually i posted 7 skills, you stupidly assumed i would take a res skill as 8th to a duel (stupid). and it was just one skill. they should have beat me i can make builds that would beat this easily sorry. also its not like they brought a res signet either.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33   #4
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Part Two already? Subscribe to the thread
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33   #5
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"Dueling" is stupid. Deal with it.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35   #6
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dueling happens naturally in 4 vs 4 arenas whether you think its stupid or not. beeing able as sole surviving person in ur team to kill other sole surviving person 1 on 1 is coolest aspect of the game for me.

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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #7
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This build is bad. The fact that you base the ability of your builds on RA/1v1 is also bad. Stop being so bad. If you still insist on being bad, please play Touch Ranger instead of this nonsense. Touch Rangers are bad, but they are at least somewhat less bad than this bad build of yours.

I wonder how many times a person can say "bad" before getting bored.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:40 AM // 03:40   #8
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no its not for 1 on 1. its that you wont be deafeated 1 on 1. its quite useful in the 4 vs 4 dynamic. also idlike to ask you do you always agree with the current mayority withought question. im willing to bet anything non of you have even tried the build. those who have faced it died, if that is not enought try it ! you will see its the holy grail of necro war builds.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43   #9
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no its not for 1 on 1. its that you wont be deafeated 1 on 1. its quite useful in the 4 vs 4 dynamic. also idlike to ask you do you always agree with the current mayority withought question. im willing to bet anything non of you have even tried the build. those who have faced it died, if that is not enought try it ! you will see its the holy grail of necro war builds.
Fine with me. Let's go. Let's duel.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46   #10
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Bad builds don't need to be tested because they are just bad. When one who isn't bad sees a bad build they can usually see that common non-bad builds can easily directly counter the bad build without also being a bad build based around beating bad gimmick builds.

[skill]Backfire[/skill][skill]Leech Signet[/skill][skill]Diversion[/skill]

People who die to bad builds like your bad build are probably just bad. Also, bad English is bad, please learn to type better because your bad English skills are making lots of babies die in bad ways.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46   #11
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Actually im not posting this to prove my build rocks cause that goes withought saying im posting it so people will know i made it up lol. as to dueling you now, you had your chance, the build retires undefeated (ahahaha). for people who like awesome ORIGINAL builds i posted it. feel free to try it, its truely awesome. ignore the dead noobs try it then judge.

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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47   #12
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Actually im not posting this to prove my build rocks cause that goes withought saying imposting it so people will know i made it up lol. as to dueling you now, you had your chance, the build retires undefeated (ahahaha). for people who like awesome ORIGINAL builds i posted it. feel free to try it, its truely awesome. ignore the dead noobs try it then judge.
Get ingame, I want to duel you.

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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48   #13
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Bad builds don't need to be tested because they are just bad. When one who isn't bad sees a bad build they can usually see that common non-bad builds can easily directly counter the bad build without also being a bad build based around beating bad gimmick builds.

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People who die to bad builds like this bad build are probably just bad.
your insulting the very people who think this build is bad cause i defeated them with it haha. its fairly easy to kill a mesmer with those skills by the way. a build that would truly have an advantage on this one would be a para or ranger build with no casting.
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your insulting the very people who think this build is bad cause i defeated them with it haha. its fairly easy to kill a mesmer with those skills by the way. a build that would truly have an advantage on this one would be a para or ranger build with no casting.
If you don't get in game soon, Ima call you a coward. I want to duel you, I want to see the build in action.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:51 AM // 03:51   #15
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Only a bad person wouldn't realize that an entire bar three skills does not make. You are truly very bad, which explains why your bad build is so horribly bad. Also, backing down from challenges is bad. Like, bad trolls are bad, and you are the baddest of the bad trolls.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52   #16
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populationcontrol is back, with another soon-to-be-epic thread!

And you forgot to mention that you cheated in those two duels by changing skills, as said in the thread.

EDIT: The First Epic Thread by populationcontrol
That was the second, yet equally hilarious chapter of populationcontrol.

The REAL First Epic Thread by populationcontrol
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52   #17
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you had your chance. and for propaganda purposes (the "coolest undefeated necro war build" sounds pretty cool) i shall retire it undefeated. might i suggest actually trying the build and seeing if it works for you. or does assuming give you more acurate impressions.

again i posted for players to use and discover the awesomeness of this build.
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actually i posted 7 skills, you stupidly assumed i would take a res skill as 8th to a duel (stupid). and it was just one skill. they should have beat me i can make builds that would beat this easily sorry. also its not like they brought a res signet either.
You forced the other player to flash their bar first, then you chose a paper skill which beat their rock (Balanced Stance vs. Shock Axe, Rend Enchantments vs. IW Mesmer), and if anyone else attempted to do that to you, you refused to duel them.

Quite hypocritical, isn't it?
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No, from the first post date Zinger's one is the first one and then followed by Strangelove's one.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 03:55 AM // 03:55   #20
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Lol, dude, I never tried to "defeat" your build, I wasn't one of the people who decided to duel against it. I wanna duel against it, if you don't wanna duel me, then your a coward, and your build is utter tripe, and you just want to spam guru with useless threads that you KNOW are going to get flamed. Duel me.
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